【考据】ACS首席编剧对Roth和Jacob关系的盖章(全程核能)

跪倒在地无语凝噎,育碧这大招放得太厉害了!

Jokes, Jokes, Jokes!:

ACS首席编剧Jeffrey Yohalam的访谈,涉及RothFrye的听译,不仅是官方盖章,还解释了两人关系的本质和Jacob的态度(以及官方替Jacob出柜了)

访问者说:本作游戏有AC系列首个男男接吻场景,是Maxwell Roth和Jacob之间的,看上去主要是为了好笑或者惊吓观众,那么你们是如何展现游戏里LGBT角色的重要性的呢?

Jeffrey Yohalam: So, You can tell how strongly we feel about it from the fact that we modify the discription at the beginning in the game: this is from a team of various races and we change that to include gender identities.(然后是关于Ned的一堆。)The kiss between Maxwell and Jacob is not for laughs. Maxwell is in love with Jacob and Jacob may have reciprocated.The goal was to make that moment ambiguous.

编剧:你可以看到我们更改了游戏标题提示:除了这是一个多种族多信仰的制作团队之外,我们还加上了多性别取向。Roth和Jacob的吻不是为了搞笑,Roth是真的爱上了Jacob,而Jacob或许有所回应。吻的目的是为了让那个时刻更模糊,更隐晦。

访问者:I didn't see it quite like that because of the lines that precede it and follow it. He is talking about "the same reason like I do anything else." They kissed and he says"why not?" So that almost to me…… In the case that the kiss is just like……some people has make comparison of Roth with the Joker, it's like Joker just randomly kissing someone, like batman. Even though it's not like……Well, I guess actuallyin that case it's kind of like a WTF thing. Sorry.

访问者说:我没往那方面想,因为那个吻之前和之后的台词,Roth说“我做所有事情都是因为——”然后他亲了Jacob说“Why not?为什么不呢?”所以在我看上去就像,因为很多人都说Roth很像小丑,所以就像是小丑随便的亲了一个人,或许是蝙蝠侠——不过小丑亲蝙蝠侠也够WTF了。

Jeffrey Yohalam: Yes, I was gonna say through that entire mission chain and the way that Maxwell writes the invitation to Jacob tocome to the play, I mean for me, Maxwell Roth was very clearly in love with Jacob. And the whole thing is done to……You know in his misguided crazy way, he's trying to seduce him. 

编剧说:是的。我要说的是,从整个序列的事件链,还有最后Roth给Jacob写的请他来音乐厅看表演的那封邀请信,在我看来Roth很明显是爱上Jacob了。而Roth做的这整件事,尽管他的方式错误又疯狂,都是为了勾引Jacob。

访问者:Oh, wow. Say I got more of a father and son type vibe. Because Jacob always clashing with his fathers kind of ideals and stuff?

访问者:哦天啦。我一直感觉到的都是更像父子关系的那种,因为Jacob一直在和他父亲的理念对抗?

Jeffrey Yohalam: No, I mean it's very intentional that Jacob has no love interests in this game. The sequence with Roth is the love interest sequence.

编剧:不不不,Jacob在整个游戏里没有爱情线是有原因的。他和Roth的序列8就是爱情线。

访问者:WOW. OK. I think some other people might get picked up on that but I did not.

访问者:啥!?好吧。我猜有些人对此会很兴奋,但我一点儿也不。

Jeffrey Yohalam:I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying that Jacob reciprocates. BUT, I think that Jacob's very much is drown to Roth, and the kiss is not entirely one-sided. 

编剧:但是,我再次强调,我不是说Jacob一定回应了这段感情,但是Jacob对Roth也很着迷,这个吻并不是全然单向的。

访问者:Yeah, I get that kind of...I almost felt like, maybe it's just my interpretation, Jacob is kindda like"I don't know how it feel about what just happened there."

访问者:好吧,我一直觉得,或许是我的个人理解,但Jacob的反应好像是“我不知道自己对刚才的那个吻是什么感觉

Jeffrey Yohalam: Exactly. And so again, structurely, if you notice, there is no love story with Jacob and a woman in the game.

编剧:太对了。我再次强调,从叙事结构上来说,整个游戏里Jacob和女性角色都是没有爱情线的。

访问者: Although I do love the fact that he's almost……through all thegame, all these elder woman's like "hello, Jacob~" and he's kind of like"hello" but in a way that's more manipulative than actual interests.

访问者:虽然我确实很开心Jacob差点就……整个游戏里面,所有比他年纪大的女性角色对Jacob都是“你好呀~Jacob~”然后Jacob就像是“你也好呀~”,但是我觉得他的回应更多的像是操纵别人的手段而不是真的有兴趣。(意思就是大龄女性跟Jacob调情,Jacob也回应但只是为了操纵她们而不是真爱。)

Jeffrey Yohalam: Exactly. So, I mean I think, again, the fact that in AC games, the main character always has a female love interest that's missing from this game is telling. And I think you are right about it, maybe there are something going on, maybe Jacob has to figure himself out to some degree, and this is the first step.

编剧:你说的太对了。我再强调一下,AC系列的男主总是有跟女性的爱情线,而ACS没有,这个事实本身就能说明什么了。而且我觉得你说的很对,或许两人之间是有点儿什么的,Jacob就是要在一定程度上发现真正的自我,而这就是他的第一步。(!!!!)

访问者:I mean it's just a very complicated relationship with Roth than general, even without that kiss. There's a lot to digest I think. 

访问者:其实即便没有那惊世一吻,Jacob和Roth的关系也比普通意义上的关系复杂多了。我觉得信息量太大我得好好消化一下。

Jeffrey Yohalam: Who takes you away... You know Roth encapsulates the opposite ideology of Jacob's father and so if you think about it inmost of our lives, usually the person we fall in love with is the personthat is the opposite, or, is too much like our parents.

编剧:那些带你离开父母的人...Roth的意识形态是与Jacob父亲完全相反的,所以你可以想想我们的现实生活,我们爱上的人,总是要么特别像我们的双亲,要么与我们的双亲截然相反。

访问者:Intresting. OK, I'm glad we got Roth in there because he's such a great character.OMG. He seems to be universally loved as one of the highlights of ACS.

访问者:有意思。好吧,我很高兴我们谈到了Roth,因为这个角色太棒了。看上去全世界都爱他而且他已经成为了ACS的一个亮点。

Jeffrey Yohalam: He is really wonderful. I mean Melisa Macoubrey UBI QC wrote that sequence and she did a fantastic job, Ned also was written by her.

编剧:他真的超棒。育碧魁北克的编剧Melisa Macoubrey写的序列8,她干的漂亮,而且Ned这个角色也是她写的。

访问者: Oh, great.

(正当我等着他们接着谈Roth的时候访谈人Loomer同学就狂热的说起了Ned啊!我这听了他这么多集AC系列访谈之后头一次真心恨他啊!)

另外一处谈到了序列8的地方:(前情是两人在说Jacob一直在破坏伦敦的问题)

Jeffrey Yohalam:The idea is that Jacob is actually murdering people.So there is direct consequences to that. But the player is playing Jacob. So it doesn't feel as consequential. So Jacob goes around having all this fun and reeking havoc along London and ultimately, that fun results in, some terrible things, that Evie has to deal with. And Jacob ends up, kind of facing that too, in the sequence with Maxwell Roth, Where he really sees the outcome, immediately, himself, instead of Evie be the one who sees it.

编剧:你要意识到Jacob是真的在杀人。杀人是会有直接的后果的。但是因为玩家在扮演Jacob,所以感觉不到这种后果。所以Jacob在伦敦到处玩耍找乐子,所到之处全是灾难,而他的找乐子就会带来非常糟糕的结果,而Evie就要处理这些。后来Jacob也不得不自食其果,就在他和Maxwell Roth的那个序列,他当场、立即、亲自看到了他玩耍的后果,而不是像往常那样是Evie来替他擦屁股。

友情提示:序列8编剧是 Melisa Macoubrey,关于她你只需要知道一点。之前我在微博上说过,Jacob的配音演员Paul Amos发过一个推特说他和Roth的配音演员曾经是室友,Paul自己和育碧魁北克的一个narrative design妹子在这条推特下面ship油炸玫瑰……这位妹子正是 Melisa Macoubrey

结论:育碧真弯了,扳不回来了。而且编剧这简直是给了Jacob一个透明柜。官逼同死。

P.S.编剧在这个访谈里也谈到了姐姐和阿三的恋爱关系。编剧说姐姐其实在游戏里一直纠结一点,就是她喜欢上了阿三,但是姐弟俩的爹告诉过他们不能和同事谈恋爱(就是那句never let your feeling compromise the mission),因为姐弟俩的爹妈就是刺客同事,然后妈生孩子时死了,爹失去搭档悲痛欲绝。所以爹对他们的教育一直是,你俩最好就别谈恋爱,更别跟同事谈恋爱。

(真尼玛AC传统糟心爸爸。你不让你儿谈恋爱于是他弯了你知道么。以及育碧还是保持了传统的,毕竟Jacob死男友了。盖戳如插刀,育碧你行。以及如果这是官方真正的意图的话那他们在序列8里的表达还真是够模糊隐晦的了。深深感觉自己的理解力不够啊。所以序列8的名字叫自由的喜悦其实是出柜的喜悦是么……)

以及我真心跟打算写文的同学推荐听一下编剧的这个podcast,解释了各种剧情中的爆点,ACS姐弟的原型灵感等等。这里。https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBIkGNJMkaU对本人听译水平有质疑的太太也请走这里。



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